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November 10th, 2003, 12:32 PM
#21
Inactive Member
I just get tired of reading criticism. I understand how hard it is to make a movie and the people behind the matrix films have achieved so much and therefore are deserving of credit. It's so easy to criticise, but the criticism loses much of its weight unless you've actually gone out and made some stuff yourself.
If you gave me a 100M I couldn't make a better film than the Matrix. I wouldnt know where to start. But I'm betting no one on here would.
Keanu Reeves is a lot worse in movies like The Watcher. His performance in the Matrix is generally considered to be his best work. I know this because I ask the casting director on Alexander The Great. Maybe you disagree, but hey-thats you.
Nothing is ever gonna quite live up to the first one; i quote myself "you can't make a better action film." But the sequels remain interesting attempts. Each one has shown me something I hadnt seen before.
People critisise Bad Boys 2(rightly) for being empty pop promos. Then the same people critise the matrix for dealing with philosophocal ideas for being nonsense.
I enjoyed the matrix movies-they are stunning technical achievements and they made me think. I dont think bullet time has ever been done better by anyone else and in that respect the effects have not "aged badly" at all.
Charachters like Smith will also live long in my memory. To anyone who worked on the matrix: Fair Play.
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November 10th, 2003, 01:37 PM
#22
Inactive Member
firstly... the matrix is no way in **** his best performance!
second of all... the fact the matrix does those time effects better than anyone else doesnt mean they retain their freshness in the face of hundreds of copies. Common sense would dictate that much.
So some ppl think the matrix is over rated? So what? Get over it. You like it and thats all that matters.
Im sure everyone here that criticises the movie respects what the makers did in terms of SFX and visuals. I doubt anyone is doubting that it revolutionised hollywood, and for that im sure they give the guys the respect they diserve...
but respecting people becos they pushed things foward is a whole different bag to liking the movie, or thinking it is a masterpeice.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 10, 2003 09:38 AM: Message edited by: belovedmonster ]</font>
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November 10th, 2003, 02:57 PM
#23
Senior Hostboard Member
heck, I appreciate all the effort that went into creating The Phantom Menace. But that won't stop me criticising it's lameness in other areas.
The matrix is a good trilogy. IMO, it's just not excellent mainly down to meandering and unresolved philisophical implications and a loss of purpose and focus. Excellent action sequences though.
It's funny that the makers of the matrix criticised the new Star Wars movies for relying too much on CGI and being souless. Well, it seems that Reloaded and Revolutions have fallen into the same trap. The trend on the new Star Wars trilogy is upwards (how could it not be ;-) whereas the trend for matrix is a sudden slump into 'ho hum'.
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November 10th, 2003, 06:55 PM
#24
Inactive Member
I'm a big fan of 'The Matrix', but after watching Reloaded I felt that the directors misunderstood what it was that people loved about the original... it was more than the effects, more than the fight/action sequences and more than bloody bullet-time...
I enjoyed Revolutions, but IMO it's not a shade on the original.
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November 14th, 2003, 01:21 AM
#25
Inactive Member
What alot of you people arent taken into consideration (The Poor ending of the Film) is that. The Matrix Saga isnt over thats why the ending felt so...half a**. The Bros (whatever their names are) Are extending the plot and story onto a new medium. Video Games. The Matrix Online takes place right where revolutions left off. Though I know many of you hated the matrix to begin with. I just had to defend the ending. even if was...Lackluster. But it wasnt predictable. Well not to your typical movie goer. Ugh...I think if more work were put into the writing. and what not. The Matrix Saga would have been pretty good. But I have yet to watch a trilogy with good sequels.
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November 14th, 2003, 06:25 AM
#26
Inactive Member
making a movies ending rubbish just so you can sell a few extra video games is pretty low
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November 15th, 2003, 11:39 AM
#27
Senior Hostboard Member
What pains me the most about the conclusion of the film trilogy is that basically the Oracle and Architect wrap it all up in spoken dialogue.
In some ways I much prefer Tron, at least the video games it spawned were natural extensions, lol
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